The two first argued on the local name of a snake. According to Kabando, snake in Gikuyu language is 'nyoka' and 'njoka' is roundworms. Karua then reacted by saying 'njoka' refers to both the snake and roundworm in Kirinyaga.
Kabando reverted and told Karua that the dialect of the Kirinyaga people defies those of Nyeri, Muranga and Kiambu and said it is more close to Kiembu than to the Gikuyu.
He stated that cultural DNA tests should be conducted to Kirinyaga people to determine whether they are true descendants of Gikuyu and Mumbi or the Aembu whom Kabando has claimed infiltrated the Mt Kenya because of the Embu name in the name KiriNyaga.
Martha Karua then affirmed the original Gikuyu is tht of Kirinyaga.
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